i was on the radio in new york. you got hammered. you were satan in the minds of the "new york times," right? >> right. >> sean: but you stuck to your anyone else. you knew you were right, it could be better, but they beat you every day. you'd go into every neighborhood, whether people voted for you or not, you'd meet the press in new york, have fights with them every day. you were chris christie before he was chris christie. you took your message out and never backed down. >> the message was, i want to move yyu out of poverty. they've been trying for 30 or 40 years, and all they've been doing is locking you in dependency programs. i took all the people on welfare, instead of giving them welfare checks, i said if you want your welfare check, you have to come and work for me. for 20 hours a week. i want to get you back in the workforce. i want to revive the work ethic. i want you to help yourself rather than making you did not. these people have locked you into poverty, and they want to keep you there. >> sean: it worked. >> i want to